Dopamine addiction adhd reddit View community ranking In the Top 5% of largest communities on Reddit ADHD and dopamine addiction Hi u/tbgmdhc278 and thanks for posting on r/ADHD! Please take a second to read our rules if you haven't already. hey i just read your comment and wanted to say that you are probably right like i said this may not work for everyone but honestly the reason why i kept it at 6minutes is because there is almost no resistence to the study process and it uses the release of dopamine to boost your performance within those 6 minutes. But I have a family and my husband and I have argued so many times about how he feels second fiddle to my phone. Your baseline dopamine levels are TOO LOW than NECESSARY to function normally. TLDR: I want to feel like I actually have choice over how I spend my time, not that I'm a slave to my dopamine addiction. Brain Development When looking at most information about ADHD, its treatments and causes the main neurotransmitters discussed and involved are dopamine and norepinephrine and I understand why of course. Seeing an ad or video of a happy healthy person on their cell-phone is a simple example of the media telling your subconscious that gluing I know little about dopamine, so I'd like some help. 5-3 GPA isn’t terrible, but I know I Totally agree with the self-medication stuff but the scientist in me doesnt like the "it's because ADHD is lack of dopamine". It fills a gap. I've always been extremely interested in girls, sex, dating and love. Most ADHD meds, or coffee in your case, cause the synthesis of dopamine, along with serotonin and norepinephrine. Posted by u/[Deleted Account] - 21 votes and 7 comments The dopamine issues that are theorized to be associated with adhd help explain and contextualize a lot about addiction and are just biochemically super interesting. Onto dopamine. When you start spending more and more time on, it’s time for a change — for a dopamine “detox”. There's no such thing as a dopamine addiction. And as f*cked as it is: there is no quick or full way to fix it. I took a step back and realized that I have a severe social media addiction. I struggle with social anxiety, so i isolate myself. The front page on reddit doesn't change and the upvotes you get don't change. You're not actually removing dopamine from your body We're an inclusive, disability-oriented peer support group for people with ADHD with an emphasis on science-backed information. In the arm metaphor, the cell that wants to move it and the cell that wants to stop it can't communicate properly, so they'll fire independently of one another in this horrible back and forth of stop and go, leading to that tell tale shaking that It’s one perspective, supported by the scientific research. I guess I'd say two of my biggest ADHD related issues are an addiction to shopping and spending money way above my means and anxiety, dopamine-search fuelled food binges. For example, you get dopamine every 10 seconds while playing games. It has been hypothesized that individuals with ADHD who are not taking stimulant medication may try to self-medicate by smoking. It doesn't rewire your brain, more like the ADHD condition rewired your brain to a different sort from birth, and that particular sort really tends to like video games. Share your stories, struggles, and non-medication strategies. I have personally noticed in myself and others. gov (national library of medicine) that suggests a link between ADHD especially inattentive type that is a result of lowered Oxytocin and dopamine. ADHD brains have a dopamine deficit, so our brains seek out any activities that provide dopamine, the more the better. EDIT: For anyone, but especially those with ADHD I really, really reccomend any of Gabor Maté's youtube videos on: ADHD. I just read another book by another neuroscientist that framed addiction as a learning disorder, like autism. and sticking to a routine helps me the most. It's training your brain to expect dopamine externally instead of generating it internally. ive consistently used psychedelics on and off for years, never quite felt addicted so much as its just been part of my self medication routine, to be honest they help my adhd more than harm it, especially in treating the co morbid anxiety/depression. bottom line is: it's officially out of 5 - avoid reels/ tiktok/ YouTube shorts, if you have ADHD they seriously “damage” your dopamine. If it was, it'd be much easier to treat. Like ADHD, Parkinson's is also caused by your body not being able to utilize dopamine correctly. And reduced inhibitory control, which is also said to be a problem with ADHD. Your brain is still producing dopamine whether you're working or slacking off. The second case is the form of dopamine stimulation. take breaks from stimulants when you can. nih. That's the whole point of it. Yeah, for some of us games are absolutely a dopamine addiction. you are correct that one of the genetic conditions of adhd is lack of dopamine. My ADHD exacerbates my phone addiction and I’m getting so tired of it, but I just can’t seem to stop. I think that stuff like social media, shopping, etc. Learn more. Like sex addiction or even like porn addiction. However I was wondering to what extent serotonin plays in the condition, given its varied complex role and wide distribution I would of guessed it had some role It strengthens synapses as well. You lack dopamine and therefore you become an addict in a way to chase whatever provides that rush of dopamine. Unfortunately, ADHD is also not just a dopamine deficiency. My point is that it is not dopamine that makes us happy, it is the hedonic hot spots (to the best of our understanding). You need to workout and “win” often (hit PRs, win games, complete puzzles, etc. The correlation is that people with adhd don’t have enough dopamine, and that it’s most beneficial to take medication and improve coping strategies. I am diagnosed with ADHD and have been thinking about this. And the question is, will any more dopamine be emitted is the warehouse if over-full. It’s actually science, people with adhd lack ways of making natural dopamine, now I don’t need gaming to make it, stimulants provide dopamine, It’s just because of dopamine that cause me to get hooked. Cocaine prevents reuptake of dopamine, thereby flooding the brain with dopamine. Dude, the worst is when you have that dopamine addiction, but instead of wasting time by playing games or watching shows, you go to reddit or social media and you keep checking back every 5 minutes. benzos, amphetamines This is also why stimulant medications are so effective in the treatment of ADHD; stimulants act as dopamine reuptake inhibitors, causing a more regular rate of consumption of dopamine and lowering how much we have to do to remain at a balanced level. EDIT: Few typos. There is almost no empirical evidence that a behavioural intervention like the 'dopamine detox' that you described would have an effect on your dopamine receptor upregulation. I'm looking for help and stories of other people with ADHD, anxiety, and depression who have overcome deeply rooted unhealthy habits. even drugs. take rhodiola under very stressful periods. Try dopamine detox as well, it worked wonders to me. I compare it to my ADHD hyperactive female friend with fast COMT who has the pulsating kind. Dopamine detox the movement is only for a few days and that isn't enough time to actually reset your brain The movement (at least the extreme versions of it I've seen) mentions cutting off doing anything that gives you dopamine which is NOT want you want to do. Or eating junk food. Stimulant medications work to correct this deficiency. Reddit and the mobile game are designed to drip feed you constant positive feedback (a dopamine hit for every five sentence post or the line of blocks you match once every three seconds) rather than giving you the big pay off of a boss every couple of hours like in a “real” game, or when you finally pass your exam in a week. I never liked the feeling past buzzed or the hangover that followed if i kept going. Growing up I worked out almost neurotically. Link is here. ADHD is related to mainly a dereceased amount of dopamine in the brain and we crave stimulation to make the brain produce more dopamine. I relate to the situation you find yourself in, but the first step is to realize you have a disability if you have ADHD. I always thought I was an introvert because I hate crowds and navigating new social situations, then I thought I was an extrovert but autistic, because I hate crowds but love having rowdy infodump conversations with other ADHD/autistic folks, and now I'm thinking maybe I AM an introvert, I just also rely on dopamine from (safe, comfortable I found that I only kept playing because I couldn’t do things right. The only fix for that is more dopamine. 9% of people, who have taken a sip of alcohol, would be an alcoholic. All my life have struggled with addiction. I struggled with gaming & social media addiction as well. Look into Wellbutrin (bupropion). But the addiction comes when you're too tired to enjoy them, but you don't have the energy to do anything else. Men work with dopamine. That means you will stock the outlet, the cannon if you like with even more dopamine. Once I told myself, “You can do whatever you want, as long as it’s one of (list of things beneficial to your life like reading, exercising, friend/family time)”, I overcame my impulsivity towards high dopamine producing-unhealthy activities. That reset was so difficult, but so worth it. Certainly, unmedicated adolescents with ADHD smoke far more than do their medicated ADHD peers and their non-ADHD peers (Whalen, Jamner, Henker, Gehricke, & King, 2003). Thats why people with adhd can get easily hooked to social media, video games ect. Side effects like, deficiency in the part of the brain that controls impulse control. Posted by u/ch0rlie - 23 votes and 8 comments ive consistently used psychedelics on and off for years, never quite felt addicted so much as its just been part of my self medication routine, to be honest they help my adhd more than harm it, especially in treating the co morbid anxiety/depression. I just wanted to share my "addiction", and am looking for similar experiences, and how you guys handle it. ADHD is a developmental disorder in the brain that directly affects (amongst other things) the generation and reception of dopamine (pleasure). You must understand "the war" which is the idea that your conscious rational mind is being bypassed countless times throughout the days with information that this dopamine addiction is good. I’m not medicated, but the dopamine hit I get is still there. The sooner you get into the habit of getting your studying done (or big boy stuff in general) THEN choose to reward yourself will slowly change the way your brain reacts and responds to these events, instead of a reward of dopamine from a game, you recieve a reward of dopamine AND knowledge that will benefit you in the future. I have inattentive ADHD+autism, slow COMT and high tonic dopamine. First, dopamine is a neurotransmitter that requires amino acids to be made, if your protein intake is insufficient therapy will not be effective. Aug 21, 2024 ยท Your ADHD brain craves stimulation. You can leverage your ADHD and do the opposite of what you do for building healthy habits: raise the barrier of entry, remove it from your sight. Many people might not have ADHD, the main just chronically addicted to screens. Reddit is just like all social media in the sense that it’s designed to keep you scrolling on the app as long as possible and it does this by constantly giving you stimulus which releases dopamine in the brain. After recently breaking with my partner of 5 years I'm embarking on a trip away to try a journey of finding contentment in the simple things in life. I think alcohol is often a drug of choice for people with anxiety, people with ADHD have high rates of alcoholism. I think I’m going to stop playing games for a while, or at the most heavily I’ll regulate it. I wish you all the best in your journey and please don’t take food addiction lightly as many do, it can be as much of a killer as any addiction. Buuut, is dopamine isn't simply released upon completing an action as a reward, it's released in ANTICIPATION of a reward. Emotional Regulation & Rejection Sensitivity I just have to get off screens, podcasts, audiobooks, YouTube videos. It's not much that you make the decision to stay true to yourself, it's that if your ADD/ADHD, you don't really have the choice. Just looking at scales of what produces dopamine in your brain and seeking out the healthier ones is helpful. As some of would know and experience, ADHD sufferers struggle with addiction. Telling people with ADHD that a dopamine detox could help them may prevent them from seeking traditional ADHD treatments. That lack of satisfaction is stored, marking the memory as unimportant. Some older (~2006-2012) studies claimed it was a factor but newer studies seem to agree that there isnt enough consistency in that theory to attribute it as a cause. I have a tiktok, reddit, twitter, and instagram account. In December I deleted everything. is particularly attractive to those with adhd because were dopamine starved and looking for a “quick fix”. A “dopamenu” is a creative approach to Oct 10, 2024 ยท Studies suggest that ADHD could be linked to the dysfunction of dopamine, which is a neurotransmitter that helps control movements and emotions. I think whether you have ADHD or not unplugging can make most people feel more focus and reduce ADHD symptoms (although probably not a cure for the majority who actually have ADHD). Now after 8 years I’m in a community of supportive people outside of 12-step and that’s working for me today. We're an inclusive, disability-oriented peer support group for people with ADHD with an emphasis on science-backed information. Replace it with something even more dopamine generating, e. I found an article on ncbi. But to answer your question i need to know what you see as a dopamine addiction first. eat more carbs with a low gi, and more protein. nlm. To a low dopamine / low dopamine sensitive brain (like ADHD), this is the fucking jackpot! To a normal brain, this is also the fucking jackpot! Dopamine, the main chemical involved in addiction, is secreted from certain nerve tracts in the brain when we engage in a rewarding experience such as finding food, clothing, shelter or a sexual mate. From getting around 80-90%, I just failed 3 exams consecutively. Amphetamine-based ADHD meds (Adderall, Vyvanse, dexedrine) work by increasing the activity of dopamine and norepinephrine. No, dopamine is secreted when there's an expectation of a rewarding experience. Also, there are studies that show people with ADHD have longer REM cycles, which means their deep sleep (the most restful kind of sleep) is impacted. I have ADHD but I find myself hyperconcentrated on whatever produces the most dopamine, I discovered this book and read it in one sitting but I'm not sure how to apply the information in my life, so far I've identified sources of high dopamine like Discord chatting servers, video games, porn, that are destroying my sensitivity to the natural . benzos, amphetamines Umm I’m old (30s) so my dopamine is buying furniture, organizing (although it only stays that way for a few hours ๐ I still love rearranging and organizing things for the sake of doing it) , walking my dog for at least an hour in inclement weather , the worse the weather is, the more dopamine ๐ while listening to true crime podcasts or stuff about cults, anything of mysterious with 2. Lack of dopamine is not accepted as the cause of adhd. In this clip we review reasons why abnormal dopamine levels can cause addiction in untreated individuals, and why psychostimulant treatment for ADHD and addiction disorders could be useful in offsetting the future addictive liability present in individuals with naturally low levels of dopamine in chief brain regions governing reward and We're an inclusive, disability-oriented peer support group for people with ADHD with an emphasis on science-backed information. Mental health x Physical health. I don't know why these self-help pseudo-science blogs call it a "dopamine detox". i also write everything down on a calendar either on my phone or a physical calendar. I’ve recently got Reddit back but Facebook and tiktok are still off and I want to give at least another couple months. Aka, a slave to avoiding suffering. The first two weeks sucked, and I really struggled without the constant dopamine until I found something else to replace it with. If I had my way, I would scroll on social media all day. It's a NDRI, a noreponephrine-dopamine-reuptske-inhibitor. Games are long and filled with more content to hook you harder. In fact, the number of dopamine receptors is much higher in men. The immediate reward of doing a thing that will directly create dopamine functions. We recommend browsing /r/adhd on desktop for the best experience. She has really risky behavior while I don't go outside mostly haha. Evidence supporting dopamine involvement in ADHD symptomatology includes pharmacotherapy studies, which show that stimulant medications that increase dopamine levels effectively treat ADHD symptoms, 24-27 genetic studies, which have linked dopamine genes to ADHD, 28-30 and imaging studies, which have shown abnormalities of dopamine function and Jun 8, 2024 ยท Understanding the role of dopamine in ADHD and incorporating effective strategies to boost dopamine levels throughout the day can be transformative. 2K votes, 766 comments. I'm m29 and got diagnosed with ADHD about a month ago, still haven't started on medication. As we all know, dopamine is like a unicorn. No processed dopamine foods. Sabroxy doesn't make more of anything, it just increases the amount of time dopamine hangs around outside of neurons. It might not help ADHD to 'increase dopamine in the synapse' if it is taken back up into the synapse so fast. Typically people with adhd are more prone to addiction and eating disorders though. This is because of dopamine addiction. There is no doubt in my mind it throws me out of balance. 2. Ozempic has been the only thing that has improved big time both things. I gained a lot from here, and I consider my comeback to Reddit a great source of new views and awareness. ) this reinforces the dopamine pathway. We crave dopamine, because we produce less of it in the brain. This can give them undesirable side effects. It's used to help quit smoking, against narcolepsy, around seventh in line for what doctors prescribe against depression, and may be used as an "if all else fails" ADHD medication, but it targets the dopamine reuptake which we all know is a great part of what messes us up. They monetized the path of least mental resistance. I'm talking 4-5 hours at the gym doing intense training 6 days a week. Doing a "fast", for which there is no scientific support, serves no purpose if your adhd isnt treated properly. If that was the case, literally 99. It’s an interesting thought but I don’t believe it is nearly that simple People with attention deficit hyp usually process things very quickly and as school classes increase in size and teachers are consistently under appreciated mixed with technologies increase of immediate gratification that leads to increased adhd rates but I’m no doctor 12-step program for internet addiction, or some other “step-by-step” program for people with ADHD and the dopamine addiction is really strong. The problem arises if you get into the dopamine “addiction” phase — when Reddit is no longer a positive, but rather a distraction. That's how we evolved. That's why people with ADHD struggle with addictions in general, because we're "addicted to dopamine". This leads to a need for constant and increasingly intense stimulation, causing people with ADHD to partake in increasingly extreme and risky behaviors. But did you know that we ADHD'ers have an even greater affinity to carbs and sugar simply for the dopamine hits?? I used to blame my genetic predisposition to addiction or my lack of self discipline and willpower, a binge eating disorder, the list goes on and on. I overcame a severe gambling addiction 8 years ago, since then filling the void with every toxic and easy way to replace that dopamine High possible. I have ADHD/anxiety and depression. You get dopamine, the actions done are learned to get more dopamine. I'm currently doing my ACCA and it's considered a pretty hard professional degree. ) was created following the Vietnam War to help soldiers returning home with addiction, and is one type of approach to addiction (disease model) and orgs like SMART follow the therapeutic community model which doesn't not subscribe to the idea you are powerless against your addiction like the disease model. For many years my addiction was exercise. It just sucks that I can’t manage my dopamine like a normal person. switch out the magnesium to one without b6, and it magnesium glycinate. Because our brains are starved of dopamine regularly, when it finds something (food, nicotine, alcohol, etc) that gives you dopamine essentially for free, it holds on to it tight. In adhd we have a dopamine deficiency. per my phone statistics, i spend approx 16 hours on these social media apps ๐ it's gotten to the point where i could be listening to a youtube video on my laptop while simultaneously scrolling through my tiktok feed. Different circadiam rhythms, increased distractions, dopamine farming, higher anxiety and racing thoughts can all contribute. g. Now, I'm able to want something and not buy it. . Less self control is an issue in both of these fields. the psychedelics can have a bit of a self limiting/self care effect. There is a totally unproven THEORY that ADD and ADHD are primarily due to a systemic shortage of dopamine, which causes everything to be much less satisfying. Its not caused by the drug/thing itself. Essentially, addiction is caused by a persons relationship to a thing that gives dopamine and pleasure. add vitamin-k, switch to a B50 complex, add gaba 500-1000mg before bed. Games are fun. but tbh medication is what's really made all the Well, dopamine plays a role in attention, learning, memory, and reward so yeah everybody is "addicted" to dopamine. I think it's not so much a phone addiction, it's an "easy dopamine" compulsion. Also, see below. Edit: holy crap, I did not expect this many responses. as someone with ADHD, check out the subreddit! the things that have helped me are #1 medication - I have severe inattentive adhd so this was literally life changing. This includes things like watching videos, mobile games (this is where I get stuck) and snacking, particularly sugar. Basically, ADHD medications help by giving you more dopamine. one of the apps that has you grow virtual plants bc you don’t move your phone. Here, an expert explains your neurological drive for dopamine and how to regulate it. so adhd only appears on men. Folks with an ADHD brain often are lacking dopamine, and games provide it. Addiction. The mobile apps used for Reddit are broken or are missing features that this subreddit depends on. The 12 step community (AA etc. How I view my tonic dopamine is a constant high dopamine flow. We're very different when it comes to stimuli. Adhd is essentially a chemical imbalance in the brain. Dopaminergic neurons that target the nucleus accumbens target both the hedonic hot spots, and the periphery (the periphery, which is part of the basal ganglia loop, is the reason for addiction). The problem with ADHD is a lack of dopamine. I get my dopamine from reading books, mostly fiction, and I just cannot stop reading. The more i isolate myself the more depressed i get and the more I want to drink. Methylephebidate-based ADHD meds, like Ritalin and Concerta work by blocking dopamine and norepinephrine reuptake. I always screwed up and gaming was my medicine. and take more omega 3 1000-4000mg through out the day. I'm just so over the constant thoughts, the constant need for a quick hit. The side effects mentioned in ADHD and gaming addiction overlap. If there’s any recommendations for video games that are good for ADHD people, would love to hear about them. As far as the book, I really didn't find it all that useful. As a kid I could binge video games all day every day, these days at the age of 27 I can only play very fast passed challenging games. What do you call dopamine addiction and what are real ADHD symptoms according to you? As far as i knew ADHD has a lot to do with dopamine, i wouldn't call it an addiction though. • Turn to dopamine high of whatever nature (weed, video games, spend money, waste time on Reddit) • do the above until there’s no time left for the work to be done and my persistent fear of complete failure makes me do the work in a mostly mediocre fashion and my grades reflect that, in my opinion. Thank you! When you have ADHD, your brain doesn't keep enough dopamine floating in that particular pathway, which means you don't feel satisfaction when doing things that would normally be rewarding. Stop using the phone and you'll play videogames, browse reddit, youtube on the PC, it can also turn into drinking or gambling habits. Addiction is something complicated enough for there to be many different components to it, not just an inability to operate when not in “dopamine rush”. My dr said I have adhd, idk if this normal for someone with… ADHD is related to mainly a dereceased amount of dopamine in the brain and we crave stimulation to make the brain produce more dopamine. Nearly a million and a half users say they 'feel at home' and 'finally found a place where people understand them'. this is simpler. Fortunately these addictions weren't always very harmful. 6- would recommend 30 min meditation everyday( I know it sucks ass to meditate ) but that’s actually why is good, getting your brain to get used to low dopamine activities It's a dopamine reuptake inhibitor. gxzrhmo ilonsu ifehqgi pahpzhq mjwx krambgi nlzp gcp rufpfmjz nolpodv yfh urkf paxh egsvtwdb mdr